A ER Doc friend of mine [raised a JW] told me every hospital ER room has the JW blood. Not for the doctors benefit but to cut time wastage because of uneducated JW patients having to halt treatment to go ask their elders if treatment is permissible.
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My Story
by Lee Elder inthis is the first of a multi-part article that tells my story, and how ajwrb got started.. https://www.openmindsfoundation.org/saving-thousand-lives-year-reform-watchtowers-policy-blood-transfusions-part-one/.
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Banjo Patterson Waltzing Matilda, The Man from Snowy River.
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This is why the Elders should always call the WT society or personal attorney before ever talking to the Police.
by StoneWall inthis is probably going to unnerve some on here or make them uncomfortable.we always hear, why didn't the elders call the cops first instead of the wt society (lawyers/attorneys).
in cases of child molestation or other incidents.this video is why and if you're smart you'll follow their example.i'm not taking the wtbts side on this just so you know in advance because i do not agree with the two witness rule at all.but be that as it may,this is by far the best lawyer/attorney and law professor i've ever heard on the subject of why you should never talk to the police and always let an investigation be made through counsel.this is why in the usa you have the right to remain silent when talking to police/authorities but even more important what the fifth amendment really entails and why it would behoove us all to understand what can happen even if you are totally innocent and have nothing to hide but how things can go horribly wrong.if i ever have to go to court for anything i can only hope that i got a lawyer as competent as this one the vid is approx 46 minutes long but well worth investing that time because if you had to talk to a lawyer it would cost you a lot to receive what this professor covers in this.the majority is from the law professor and the remaining minutes are of a former police captain/investigator with his insights and opinions.and just to be clear, i'm not suggesting that the elders not call the police because they should in cases of child molestation but rather they better get legal advice to protect themselves so that they don't have to answer for the wtbts decisions.look how many former (ex) elders we have on sites like this one and others and i'm so happy they got free of the wt but also they didn't get in trouble by accidentally saying/doing the wrong thing.all of us can benefit by following this advice in the video and i hope you enjoy it and to know what your rights arehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d-7o9xyp7ee.
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I carry a personal liability insurance policy because of my interactions with the WTBS. I have one million dollars for attorney's fees if they come after me.
Every church elder should have such a policy to protect him being held accountable for WTBS policy.
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Canada starts fight-back against bloodless surgery?
by darkspilver ini'm sure orphancrow will be able to fill in the details for us.. front page news with picture all over the canadian globe and mail newspaper today.. with major double-page spread across the whole of pages 8 and 9 in the newspaper's front section.. globe and mail, tuesday 8 august 2017.. the patient, a 70-year-old man with high-risk prostate cancer, was a jehovah’s witness.. his religion was one of the reasons he decided to undergo surgery at st. joseph’s healthcare in hamilton, home to a robot named da vinci whose steady metal hands can remove a prostate with scant risk of the blood transfusions forbidden by the man’s faith.. on a recent afternoon, the patient laid unconscious on an operating table as surgeon bobby shayegan and his team plunged a camera and three robotically controlled surgical instruments through small incisions in his abdomen.. dr. shayegan settled himself in front of a three-dimensional screen, clasped the two joysticks that controlled the tools inside his patient’s pelvis and proceeded to cut, cauterize and stitch until he freed the man’s prostate, pulling it out through one of the original incisions.. there was next to no blood.. “that was routine,” dr. shayegan said afterward, holding the plum-sized gland that he and the robot had removed together.
...in its first real ruling on a robotic surgery, the expert committee that advises ontario on which new health technologies to pay for said there was no good evidence that robot-assisted radical prostatectomy is any better than conventional open surgery when it comes to controlling cancer or preserving urinary and sexual function.. the panel said the robot’s other benefits – patients have smaller incisions, lose less blood, suffer less pain and leave the hospital sooner – were not significant enough to justify spending, on average, an extra $3,224 a case, a figure that does not include the millions that wealthy benefactors have spent buying the machines for canadian hospitals.
https://www.theglobeandmail.com/life/health-and-fitness/health/the-fight-for-robots-in-canadas-operatingrooms/article35897282/.
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I went the robot, at a leading cancer center "City of Hope" LA Ca.
The blood issue is no major issue in this type of sugary.
Incontinence is the major issue, how much the plumbing leaks after operation. The robot is very precise, using magnification, air pressure to create space for minimal amount of tissue to be cut. The movements are very controlled through what ever setting the operator sets. A major determining factor of sugary success lies in the patient and how serious he takes his pelvic floor exercises.
This is just personal opinion. A surgeon told me sugary is one half science, one half art. A highly skilled surgeon is just that. The robot can take a good surgeon and make him competitive with a higher skilled surgeon. Sugary has three factors 1; how healthy we have maintained our body, 2; skill of surgeon, 3; how serious we do our rehab. Personally for me the robot was a much wiser decision then the Urologist I knew from the gym.
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Mystery Letters of "Human Apostate" talk 2013 summer convention and its connection to Lev.5:1
by Bill Covert ingreetings from redding calif. my name is bill covert.
i am one of those viet nam war felons for having to refuse communtiy service in lieu of military induction per direct instructions from ny, so i have been around for a while.
i am the writer of the letters mentioned in the human apostate talk of the 2013 conventions.
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John the Baptist huh, if that be true than there is someone coming behind me of whom works at a much higher pay grade level than I do. When he appears he has the ability to open eyes far beyond the level than I ever could. Truthfully where he went with Lev.5:1 I only know enough to get myself in trouble, and you will learn about it at the same time I do.
Lev.5:1 has nothing to do with child molestation's. It is strictly a courtroom proceeding. Google commentary on Lev.5:1 go to Bible Hub if you are sharp enough and you have read my post with the mind to understand you will see something very interesting.
But realize I am only the fore runner of the one who is packing the real "Thunder"
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Mystery Letters of "Human Apostate" talk 2013 summer convention and its connection to Lev.5:1
by Bill Covert ingreetings from redding calif. my name is bill covert.
i am one of those viet nam war felons for having to refuse communtiy service in lieu of military induction per direct instructions from ny, so i have been around for a while.
i am the writer of the letters mentioned in the human apostate talk of the 2013 conventions.
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Vienne That would be a pleasant surprise. I got WTBS on one side and alcohol on the other and I don't belong to either. And I am too afraid I would find losers if I did family tree.
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Mystery Letters of "Human Apostate" talk 2013 summer convention and its connection to Lev.5:1
by Bill Covert ingreetings from redding calif. my name is bill covert.
i am one of those viet nam war felons for having to refuse communtiy service in lieu of military induction per direct instructions from ny, so i have been around for a while.
i am the writer of the letters mentioned in the human apostate talk of the 2013 conventions.
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Listener The matter which was a $4.250M unregistered securities swindle went to the District Attorneys office, which at that time had posted in newspaper that due to budget issues they would no longer be doing white collar crime, only violent crime [white collar crime is way more expensive to prove a case than murder]. They sent the case to the SEC, the Feds sent it the State Dept of Corporations, The Dept of Corp. only operates in Civil Court hence only has power to fine, no prison time. The swindler in my story had an employee take the fall for him. Also at that time the elder abuse laws were not what they are today.
The WTBS has a structure to handle these types of issues the Service Dept. Sitting on the Northern California desk was a Merton Campbell [check this web site Randall Waters post as to the Red Bluff molester"Henderson" to realize what a fuck up he was as to competence, he cost the WTBS a lot of money over that screw up] some how Merton Campbell got pissed when I called him a "servant on a horse" Eccl.10: 7 when he assigned Ray Dale the writer of the prospectus to investigate a $4.250M fraud. That one move opened the way for a deception of the Service Dept by elders who were investors into Ray Dale's schemes, the interesting part of that deception was a JW Patent Attorney who was turned by Ray Dale for the fact he to had a part in the scheme. The Lev.5:1 [per 1987 Wt. article "A Time to Speak When?" commentary on Lev.5:1] part is two letters of criminal investigation that elders of another congregation refused to forward to the Service dept thus allow Merton Campbell the opportunity to correct his error. I mentioned in the original post that I was asked by Barbara Anderson if per chance I was the man in Northern California who wrote the most offensive letters of anyone in the USA during her time in Bethel and that is a bingo! I also wrote those letters mentioned in the 2013 "Human Apostate talk". Check the recent topic where the question was asked, Did anyone ever remove a elder? Sir I am one tough SOB!
If you were to take the time to open your new RNWT to Lev.5:1 you will see something brand new never commented on by the WTBS or any apostate web sites, just me.
Now all you need to do is figure out how it fits to the lessons learned in the movie "Spotlight" and SNAP and you will be up to speed on just how important that one little change in the church's own Bible really is.
Bill
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Mystery Letters of "Human Apostate" talk 2013 summer convention and its connection to Lev.5:1
by Bill Covert ingreetings from redding calif. my name is bill covert.
i am one of those viet nam war felons for having to refuse communtiy service in lieu of military induction per direct instructions from ny, so i have been around for a while.
i am the writer of the letters mentioned in the human apostate talk of the 2013 conventions.
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I need to make a correction and a sincere apology. About three years ago when Barbara and I were getting to know each other she had some traveling to do I offered to help on the expenses. She made it quit clear that she does not accept donations so as to stay clear of personal gain issues. I said I would send her something to help with traveling expenses, she had no idea at what the amount would be. This was prior to a project we came to work on.
This post I did yesterday was a very emotional post in that I am at the very last point as to whether I am actually going to literally be able to save a life of a son. He is the reality of the wickedness and evilness of the church shunning policy, unfortunately that policy has the power to kill. There is a very special something in the works that has the power to break down shunning barriers with in families. I have been waiting on that project just like in the movies as to will the cavalry arrive in time to save the day. I did not word things pertaining to Barbara accurately for that I do apologize. She works very hard to keep her act above any reproach and I muddied the waters.
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Mystery Letters of "Human Apostate" talk 2013 summer convention and its connection to Lev.5:1
by Bill Covert ingreetings from redding calif. my name is bill covert.
i am one of those viet nam war felons for having to refuse communtiy service in lieu of military induction per direct instructions from ny, so i have been around for a while.
i am the writer of the letters mentioned in the human apostate talk of the 2013 conventions.
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Up date a half hour after I hit the send button I got a phone call from son breaking a four day silence. So I guess things are not as bad as I thought. I make no apologies for anything said here as merits of this post stand exclusively on the technical accuracy of why the revision in the RNWT and how that relates to the understanding of the "two witness' rule.
Bill
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Mystery Letters of "Human Apostate" talk 2013 summer convention and its connection to Lev.5:1
by Bill Covert ingreetings from redding calif. my name is bill covert.
i am one of those viet nam war felons for having to refuse communtiy service in lieu of military induction per direct instructions from ny, so i have been around for a while.
i am the writer of the letters mentioned in the human apostate talk of the 2013 conventions.
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This a very rough day, a human life is being brought to a end through self induced alcohol poisoning. My #5 son 33 years old went down to Sacramento Ca. out of my control and unless some last minute miracle occurs should be well on the way of consuming enough vodka to shut out a 27 year night mare of corruption of a swindler who a had a career ever since 1982 of defrauding seniors with in the JW church. And the church's corruption of selling him positions of influence, "simony" and taking bribes Isa.1:23 to cover up a $4.250 million dollar unregistered securities swindle. But mainly it is the story of a corrupt church policy that requires church members to inform on their fellow church members.
This post was done two years ago and Barbara Anderson made it the subject of a book and the largest research project she has undertaken in her life. When the RNWT was released in 2013 Barbara was in the midst of completely rebuilding her web site but was interested in posting my story on her new site. It wasn't until after she returned from the SNAP convention she was able to get her mind warped around just how important Lev.5:1 was especially coupled with the 1987 Wt. article " A Time to Speak When". It took a couple of months of back and forth to where her mind was opened to why the WTBS switched the clean man doing the public cursing and the 'witness' who was the real sinner of Lev.5:1. Once she got her mind over the hurdle than she became a blood hound on the trail of the how and why's of the Lev.5:1 deception and what purpose it served. As a researcher she had an agenda to uncover the history of why the deception occurred, a very important piece of work.
But a problem occurred the project became so big it has become un finish able due to health issues, energy levels massive amount of work load from what is going on in primary area on concern being the molestation issues. Early last fall she said she was going to take my suggestion and cut down the size of the book due to it vastness. Late last fall she assured me she had just too much time invested in the book to quit now. The last email a month ago was just she still has plans to finish but her body has had the energy sucked out of it by having a plate overflowing with time consuming issues and countless people seeking her advice and counsel. A couple of weeks ago I asked her if it was possible to just release the information necessary for the world to see the apostate nature of the WTBS 'informant policy' and not let the past history of the hows and why's hold that information hostage, no reply.
The RNWT revision of Lev.5:1 is a very, very big news, unfortunately it is going to take a Barbara Anderson or some like her to release it in order for most folks to understand it. To understand Lev.5:1 is to be able to put the "two witness" policy into perspective!
If the post of Randy Waters is an indication this post should release a firestorm of Barbara's supporters. But realize Barbara gave her word that this was going to happen!!!!
There is no basis to say I have been impatient, it has been a 3 1/2 year waiting. I sent her a thousand dollars to help the project along. For the past year and a half since my son moved in with me I check the computer 3 or 4 times a day waiting for information as to when the 'cavalry' was going to arrive so as to be able to lift the pressure off of us, it never happened.
Last February I got a phone call from someone investigating the swindler of my story Ray Dale [please refer to "Royal Flush Phil" comment on another post of mine for info as to the vastness of Ray Dale's defrauding seniors]. They Googled Ray Dale San Diego and up popped "Ray Dale, Bill Covert" taking them to this very post and also one on JW Survey. Do that same search today and both Ray's name and my name have been deleted, it just starts with the beginning sentence of this post. They were looking for information pertaining to this post, of which I supplied everything I had. I went to County Records looked up information [the amazing find was proof of collusion among the elders of the Matt.18: 17 process to deceive the Service Dept as to Ray Dale's swindles as they were profiting from those schemes]. I gave the researcher $5,000 for various things as catching a swindler of Ray's magnitude was that important to me. A judicial process was started in San Diego with Ray in early March, the details have been with held from me due to the agenda of the investigator. There is a certain amount of energy released over this matter in the San Diego area, again information with held. Where all this will go could be interesting, time will tell.
Will Barbara substantiate what I have said, I don't know. But before there is a fire storm of out cry I would hope that the better brains on this site would very carefully read over my post because there IS A REAL REASON THAT THE REVISION OF 2013 of LEV.5:1 HAS BEEN CLOAKED IN SILENCE BY THE WTBS!
Now I have lost a son. I am not the only one to have lost a loved one but once the mystery of Lev.5:1 becomes revealed this will go down as one of the more tragic stories of WTBS corruption.
Bill Covert